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to have furlows of civilian personnel most likely, you're going to just stop sending navy ships to some places, you're going to decrease our ability to deal with the unforeseen contingencies that could happen anywhere around the world. so it's security, but it's also economic, you're right. >> for the idea that we keep defense protected, the president may insist on other things in kind, like some sort of revenue. how open is the gop to that? >> if he talks about more tax increases, then i think it's all a political sham, taxes have been decided, they were decided with the fiscal cliff deal that congress approved and the president signed earlier this career. now the target has to be spoending. and it really has to be on mandatory spending which is 2/3 of the budget. you can't balance the budget on defense. in fact if you eliminated defense it would not balance the budget. so it's got to behe mandatory programs, that's what we have got to focus on and if he talks about anything else, i think he's playing games. >> if that happens, if revenue is a component, we have got 90 minutes until he
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